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Cata multi-boxing leveling

So I finished off leveling the DK’s to 85 about 2 weeks ago now and have started on the shaman so thought I’d post a few things I have found about the leveling experience through the Cataclysm zones so far.

The biggest issue that a multiboxer will find coming into Cataclysm from RAF is that there is no way to avoid our most hated enemy, collection quests. Every quest hub in each zone through Cataclysm has to be completed before the breadcrumb to the next hub will open up for you, this means that every single collection quest will have to be done if you either want to level to 85 through questing or you want to come back at 85 and finish them off for gold and/or enchanting mats.

A lot of the quests through the zones will be group-friendly, eg kill quests that are shared across the group or item drops that are on the corpse for all characters in the group, but there are some really tedious collections quests too. An example of the tedious type is a quest in Mount Hyjal that requires you to collect 15 arrows off the ground, annoying enough when solo, but with needing to do it five times it becomes a chore but not as bad as a quest later on that requires 16 random drops of mobs that don’t share across the group so you are stuck with needing 80 random drops.

The only real saving grace for this is that the technology we are using makes it not as bad as it used to me. Picture-in-picture swapping on both Keyclone and ISBoxer make it easy enough to switch from character to character as one gets the quest done, while also allowing you to easily switch back to your tank if attacked, targeting a corpse and then using interact with target also makes it easy to have your team loot mobs without switch from your tank (as well as skin/herb/mine mobs if you can) while mouse broadcasting can also make it easy to pickup or activate ground-based untargetable objects without switching characters.

In terms of leveling speed I found that with 150% rested xp I was able to hit 85 from 81 with about 5% rested remaining after making sure to log out in an inn each night and got the final level while questing in Deepholm, though I had gone and done the pre-quest for Twilight Highlands and the starting quests there to open up the portal to and from Stormwind.

For cash I currently have about 2300g on each of the DK’s after buying them 280% flying and still have about half of Uldum and most of Twilight left to do. I have also run the Molten Front dailies for about 8 days so far and bought the tanking boots and neck from there and the belt from Hyjal so I would say that quest leveling through Northrend and Cataclysm should give you enough cash to properly outfit your character with 310% flying, all skills and full rep gear with enough left over to be ready for the next expansion but you will need a cashed up character if you want to buy them full epic crafted gear.

Overall I’d say the biggest thing to be aware of when quest leveling through Cataclysm is that you will need to have patience when you get the collection quests in each hub and to make sure you have your setup configured to make picking up items off mobs or the environment as easy and fast as possible so as to minimise the time needed to be spent on collections.

Where we’re at.

Since the last update I’ve been working on the DKs to get them to 85 asap and into the PvP arena team that has been planned. The team is now at 84.5 after completing Mount Hyjal, Vash’jir, the first part of Twightlight Highlands to get the portal back to Stormwind open and the first two segments of the world pillar in Deepholme along with the Crucible of Carnage.

The crucible was an interesting experience as I had to do it twice with a friend healing so they could get it done as well. Blood DKs don’t put out a mass of DPS so the fight with Godfrey took a bit longer than it should have, thankfully my healer is overgeared and was able to deal with it combined with the bloodworms (some doing 10k heals) and the deathstrike heal and bubble but I can’t wait to hit 85 so I can spec into frost for a secondary….yes I can do it now if I want but can’t be bothered to port back to Ebon Hold without a reason.

Along the leveling so far I also ran the goats through BRC with the healer friend, we one-shot everything except Corla where we wiped on her the first time due to a mistake on the evolutions, regrouped and took her down. Most of the run was fine, a little slow again due to running 4 bloods, but a few messy spots that show I have room for improvement in controlling the melee group including when I get runners.

RAF challenge completed

WoW RAF completed
WoW RAf completed

The characters on the last list were my main account and not linked to RAF, used the paladin on there to boost all the teams. The 85 paladin on D was transfered across from horde server at the end, the mage on A account was already there but only level 72 when I started to RAF.

Druids, DKs, Wars, Rogues and Shaman were leveled to 81, mages were gifted from scratch and the rest were boosted to 60 and then gifted the rest of the way. I also gifted a lock, hunter and priest from 1 to 81 as I had to transfer one of each to the D account to finalise things which led to me only having 40 giftable levels unused on B account in the end.

I started on 5 July and finished up on 12 Sept so around 60 days in total but less played obviously. Took about 15 hours to get teams from 1 – 60 and about 48 hours to get from 1 – 81 for those teams, will do a full count in the next day or two.

First team experiences

Last week was fairly productive as I managed to get the first of my new teams, 4 druids, to 81 since the RAF xp bonus works all the way through level 80 rather than stopping there as expected with a total played time of ~48 hours. The played time is a good bit of news as it means that if I focus I should be able to get one team a week done if I don’t waste time on the weekends and since I only have 5 more teams to level up, assuming I get the DK’s from 66 to 81 this week, I should be able to get everything done long before RAF runs out.

After the break I’ll go into some details that I discovered regarding boosting during the experience that will hopefully help others in a similar situation.

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The start of a new journey

Since Rifts and DC Universe didn’t hold my interest for too long I started drifting back towards WoW during my downtime for short periods of time as I try to get my thumbs back to working order and the urge to multibox crept up on me slowly, until that is Chris started back playing and talking about PvP which, combined with threads at dual-boxing.com, made the urge in me to have 4 frost DK’s for  5v5 arena team rise to unignorable levels.

 

That then friends is how this new journey began….

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Boxing SSO Dailies

So there I was at work last week, bored and realizing I needed to grind rep for SSO for the shield/neck/weapons but already hating what I had been doing due to the mana residue and naga ore quests. I decided since I didn’t feel like doing any work on my project I’d try to find the fastest way to get rep in a multi-boxer friendly way but with maximum efficiency and minimum collection, so I now present it for your laughter and ridicule.

I’d also like to firstly say thanks to Suvega for his thread on his dailies routine that gave me the basis for the 3 macros I use in this routine.

Phase 1:

1. Send 1 character to QD Isle, have rest at Shat (helps at the end of the night to use the Dalarian Teleport scroll on 4 characters and leave one at QD, or have a mage), and have the character at DQ grab Rediscovering Your Roots and head to Shat
2. At Shat have all characters grab Sunfury Attack Plans
3. Head east out of Shat up to Razorfang Ridge, have group loot on FFA and kill Razorthorn Flayers (which will drop Razorthorn Flayer Gland) until you have 1 gland on each character
4. Have each character use a gland on a ravager each (make sure the ravager is moving before you use a gland on it…they like to go into evade mode up there and then you waste the gland)
5. Once all characters have a ravager each go up to a mound of dirt and use the following macro on all characters. The ravagers will dig up one Razorthorn Root each, grab one per character and move to the next mound until you have 5 of them each

/cast Expose Razorthorn Root

6. Mount up and head northeast until you hit the Throne of Kil’Jaeden and the quest giver there
7. Grab Blood for Blood and Blast the Gateway then have everyone use their Sizzling Embers to get the little fireball ready
8. Start running round and killing Incandecent Fel Sparks until your balls level up to unstable status (the Fel Sparks will also level up your balls if you are just near them when they die as well, so if you see someone killing one run over to them and benefit, or if you are already killing one pull it over and let everyone benefit).
9. While doing this also kill 4 Wrath Herald and loot them with your main char to get 4 Demonic Blood to power your Fel Siphon
10. Once you have the 4 bloods, go find Felblood Initiates, use the Fel Siphon on one and tap it at the same time with one of your other characters to stop someone getting the credit for it. Once the drain has channeled the mob will turn into an Emaciated Felblood but WAIT until you see it lose its amour and turn to a white skin before killing it or you won’t get credit
11. Once you have killed the 4 initiates, run back through the demonic gateway with your unstable fireballs to blow it up and hand in the quests there
12. Fly back over to Honor Hold and get a bird to Area 52
13. Run up to Manaforge B’Nar and kill mobs until Sunfury Attack Plans drop. It’s random drop with round 20% droprate I think but it’s group lootable.

Phase 2:

14. Head back to Shat and go through the portal to QD, drop down into the bottom of the building and grab The Battle Must Go On, Know Your Ley Lines and The Air Strikes Must Continue
15. Leave the building and head southeast to the Dawning Square, kill 6 demons and the Emmisary of Hate (though will usually find it already dead) and have your main use the banner on it to finish The Battle Must Go On for the group. Also have your main use the astromancer crystal near the portal for part 1 of Know Your Lay Line
16. Head back up to the building north of the square, where the armorer is, grab Keeping The Enemy At Bay on the first floor landing and Crush the Dawnblade on the top floor
17. Head back down and noth to the boat on the right of the inn, grab Disrupt The Greengill Coast here
18. Head east to the greengill coast, kill Darkspine Sirens and loot the Orb of Murloc Control that each one drops on your main then proceed to use them on murlocs as you head west to the small shrine in the water
19. Have your main use the astromancer crystal at the shrine, all in group will get second part of Know Your Ley Lines done
20. Head back west to the boat and hand in Disrupt The Green Gill Coast
21. Head west to the inn, hand in Rediscovering Your Roots
22. Head west to the flightmaster, have all characters right-click to bring up the gossip screen with him and then use the following macro on all characters to have them mount and fly at the same time for The Air Strikes Must Continue

/script SelectGossipOption(1)

23. Hotkey the arcane charges for this quest and then once you are in the dead scar just spam and target. It will likely take a few flights before you work out the positions of the mobs you need and even then it may take 2 flights to complete the quest depending on number of people also doing it and your accuracy
24. Have everyone right click the guy next to the flight master again and use the following macro to start all characters at the same time on Keeping The Enemy At Bay

/script SelectGossipOption(2)

25. Again, hotkey the flaming oil and use if once on the mast of each ship you pass on the flight path to set fire to the sails of each ship. For the third ship wait until you turn and fly up past it’s side to be in range.
26. Once you land, stay on the first ship and kill the 6 Dawnblade Reservists you need there as I found it’s annoying to get onto the other ships, need to jump and move up out of the water so usually will accept a wait time on that boat
27. Once the quest is completed have all characters right click the dragonhawk and use the Dead Scar macro to head back to QD
28. Head south into the small building with the quatermaster in it and grab Further Conversions then back out and head south to the Dawnblade area
29. Kill dawnblades as you go for Crush the Dawnblade and head into the big building to find 3 summoners around a blood crystal. The summoners are always in evade mode on Proudmoore so I’m not sure if they will agro or not, but head in there and have your main use the astromancer crystal to finish off Know Your Ley Lines
30. Once you have finished Crush the Dawnblade go SW and kill any Erratic Sentry you see, have your main use the Attuned Crystal Core on them until you have 5 and then head back to QD center

Phase 3:

31. Hand in Further Conversions at the quartermaster building
32. Hand in Know Your Ley Lines, The Air Strikes Must Continue and The Battle Must Go On in the center building
33. Head to armory building and hand in Keeping The Enemy At Bay and then up the top to hand in Crush The Dawnblade
34. Head back to Shat (I use the teleport scrolls from Know Your Ley Lines because if you don’t you can’t hand it in again until you destory them) and hand in Sunfury Attack Plans

Results:

At the end of this run you will get ~115g, 2700 SSO rep and 15 Sunwell Supplies giving you at least 15 greens to DE and a chance at a Badge of Justice per supply and will usually take about an hour or so depending on how co-operative the Razorfang Flayers and Sunfury mobs are being for the Glands and Plans.

Shareable Quests:

* Crush the dawnblade
* Disrupt the greengill coast
* Sunfury attack plans
* Rediscovering your roots

Unshareable Quests:

* Further conversions
* The battle must go on
* The air strikes must continue
* Know your ley lines
* Keeping the enemy at bay
* Blood for blood
* Blast the gateway

New Box = meh

Well, had my folks down visiting a couple of weeks ago and during that time I decided to move my workspace around….Murphy’s kicked in and my old AMDx2 machine decided to fry it’s cpu when I turned them back on (yes I know, a UPS is next must-buy). It’s been sitting round looking all forlornly at me, but since it was a socket 939 there was not much I could do but retire it, scavenge parts and build a new box.

Looking over it, the only thing I could really salvage were the 2 7800GTX’s and the hard drives since when I decided to test the PSU with another older mobo/cpu I had, that cpu lasted about 5 seconds before frying as well so I figure the PSU was effectively dead and don’t want to take the risk. The hard drives were all PATA, which posed a small problem (this box was my file server) until I found an item called a TeraBox at the computer markets…it’s a small box with a 150W PSU that holds up to 4 PATA drives (to 2GB total) and can either have them set as individual drives or seen as one and then connects to a PC through USB. Given I have previously had issues with spanned drives, I have set these up as individual drives and has worked flawlessly so far under XP, Vista and a Mac, the only issue found with the Mac was I had to let the Mac reformat one of the drives to be able to write to it since it seems they can read NTFS but not write to it.

With the drives sorted, and my mind already set on what I wanted out of the new PC (quad core, sli, 8Gb RAM), I decided that I could get by with just getting the RAM, CPU, Motherboard and case/PSU this week and use the GTX’s initially to see if I need to look at upgrading to the 9800 series (either GTX or GX2) so off to the markets I went this weekend and grabbed what I needed, to be pleasently surprised. I ended up getting an evga 780i motherboard, 8Gb of PNY RAM (though a little annoyed, thought it was 5-5-5-15 but is 5-5-5-18), a Q6600 CPU and a cheapish case with PSU for $800. The case I gimped myself with as my current main machine was in a Super Lanboy case with a 650W Antec PSU so decided to put the new build in that and so just needed something to hold the current build of Q6600, 4Gb, 9600GT and this seems to be holding well. If it becomes an issue I intend to grab an Antec 900 case and 850W modular PSU anyway so it’s not a major problem to have that machine out of action for a week till the next markets.

I spent all saturday putting the new pc together (well also taking the other one apart and putting it back together in the new box) and installing Vista64 SP1 which all went reasonably quickly, the only concern I had was the new botherboard has an 8 pin power2 while my PSU only had a 4 pin but reading the manual it seems the 8 pin is only needed if running quad SLI so I gave the 4 pin a try and the system fired up and appears stable still.

Once built and in place I ran the first testto see if I could see any improvement in multiboxing World of Warcraft, and I put one monitor on on card, the second monitor on the other and had SLI disabled (mainly because I intend to run 4 monitors on this machine) and found the effect to be disasterous…I was getting single digit framerates on all 5 instances of WoW which was unacceptable, machine was turned off and both monitors plugged into card 1.

For the second attempt, I’m not sure what the issue is but I am getting only around 15fps on all 5 instances when running at the same time, and only around 35fps when running a single instance of WoW which is about 1/2 of what I was seeing with a single 7800GTX under XP32 SP3…at this stage I am thinking it is something to do with having the SLI bridge in place between the two cards, so I’ll likely try taking that off tonight and see if I see any improvement, and I also have to see if going to SLI shows me any upgrades with FSX.

At this stage I’m happy with the new pc, but not ecstatic since I haven’t seen the improvements I’d expected and found one of the reasons for going with a new SLI build (running monitors on all cards) is likely not going to work. It might be the 7800’s that are the issue so the next phase will be to finialise what I planned and add either 2 9800GTX’s or 2 9800GX2’s, so will update this once I get them in place and tested.

And welcome to team 2 :)

Well, I have decided to bit the bullet and level up another 3 shaman to give me a little bit more flexibility in group makeup. I also have a friend that has a level 62 warrior sitting around unloved due to not having much luck with groups since he’s a loldps spec so thought I’d start up a group to help him level as well with my initial thinking of doing 4 druids to tank and heal while he dps’s but I think I can change that around using shaman and still achieve my goals.

Currently I’m going to boost the 3 new shaman + 1 other up to outland using Smara with the following outline:

  • 1 – 10 – Newbie zone
  • 10 – 15- Deadmines
  • 15 – 20 – Stockades
  • 20 – 40 – SM
  • 40 – 50 – BRD
  • 50 – 55 – Scholo/Strat
  • 55+ – Outland

Once I hit 55 with them I’ll (likely)  stop worrying about the 4th boostee and just start running with Smara + Baanmee + 3 other shaman through Ramparts until they hit 60 and then drop Baanmee from the group and add in my friends warrior while continuing to use Smara to tank them through to 70.

Once the 3 shaman are at 70 I’ll be able to either run the current Five Fingers or Smara + 4 Shaman as dictacted by what I’m doing, eg Smara + Shaman for PvP, but also it could be easier to gear Smara up more quickly using just the shaman and then have him essentially boost the current group through instances for loot or badges by having him outgear the instances. This is dependent on me being able to use the shaman as effectively in instances as others have shown is possible in videos either on youtube or in the video forum at http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums.

I’ve got the 3 new shaman created already so it’s just a matter of leveling them up to 10 now to get them over to deadmines, and will likely do that tonight after I run my 10 welfare epic games and then tomorrow before maintenence. I think that will be the better way to do it as Smara is currently in Azeroth leveling up mining after I dropped blacksmithing on him as discussed earlier, got him up to 55 last night so guessing it will be another day or two to get him up to 300 and then it’s off to instancing properly with the Five Fingers. One side-effect of picking up mining with Smara is that I can drop it on Ivanasukle now which I was going to do with the intention of her grabbing inscription when WotLK releases but now I think I’ll put that onto a deathknight and grab tailoring on Ivana for the bop purple Spellfire items that seem to be great dps upgrades according to http://www.maxdps.com and some of the best I’ll get outside of sneaking them into a black temple raid somehow so just makes sense really.